How not to interview The Donnas

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By Erika Meyer

1. How NOT to interview The Donnas

It’s 2003. I’m working at a college about 45 minutes drive from my home. During my commute I often listen to KNRK, Portland’s “alternative rock station”. They play Nickelback, Everclear, Sublime, and such. I wish there were more variety. I am disappointed, also, that they never play any music with a female vocalist. Then, one morning the DJs announce that they will be interviewing The Donnas later. That seems quite out of the ordinary, so I decide to tune in at work and listen.

The interview will be conducted by a couple of DJs called Marconi and Tiny. The DJs get pumped for the interview by playing a Donnas song on the air. Then The Donnas arrive in the studio. Everyone says hello.

I believe that it is the third question that becomes problematic. It is something along the lines of “So have you all ever done the same guy at the same time?* All together?”

The Donnas, apparently expecting questions about their music, their album, their tour, and so forth, refuse to respond to the DJs sexcapade question, except to say they think it’s inappropriate. The DJs grow defensive and begin to hurl insults. The Donnas then end the interview. They just get up and walk out.

But it doesn’t stop there. Oh no. The butt-hurt DJs continue to rant and rage (occasionally breaking for a song or commercial) for the duration of their program. They feel that The Donnas have no business protesting the question, because they have written songs like this:

They call The Donnas “bitches” and “whores”** over and over, announcing that they will never play The Donnas music ever again (not that they ever had before).

I briefly consider calling the station to show them what a real bitch sounds like.

Instead, I decide to stop listening to KNRK altogether.

2. A better way to interview The Donnas

Two years later, in 2005, I’m teaching guitar at Rock n’ Roll Camp for Girls. Every morning we all gather in a big auditorium, and Carrie Brownstein (of, at the time, Sleater-Kinney) plays her Gibson SG as we sing the rock camp song. Then there is a morning skit which that year was acted out by Beth Ditto, Carrie Brownstein, and a musician/writer named Chelsea Johnson. The three of them portray characters in various scenarios in order to illustrate some point the camp staff wanted to make (Carrie often wearing some ridiculous fake mustache). The girls then go to break out sessions and learn everything from songwriting to self-defense. During the lunch hour, bands play – The Blow, The Gossip, All Girl Summer Fun Band, etc.

One day, at lunch, The Donnas come in, set up a merch table in the back, and conduct a sort of panel interview from stage in front. Along with camp volunteers, about 60 girls aged 8-18 sit on the floor of the auditorium with their lunches, and The Donnas answer their questions.

The Donnas discuss how they got together as a band, how they collaborate, and their experiences with Atlantic Records and MTV and such. They are so sweet and respectful and encouraging that it seems pretty much impossible to dislike them as people. After the interview is over, I buy one of their T-shirts.

3. Epilogue

In May 2004 Marconi and his crew air audio from the beheading of Nick Berg and joke about it. The next day, KNRK issues an apology to its listeners, and fires all three of them. The following week, the station decides to rethink their format and actively solicits listener feedback. As a result of this KNRK hires less offensive DJs and shifts their programming to include acts like David Bowie, Modest Mouse, and The Shins.

They still don’t play The Donnas.

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* You can’t say “fuck” on the radio.

** Apparently, you can say “bitch” and “whore” on the radio.

6 Responses to “How not to interview The Donnas”

  1. 2003 + 1 is not 2005

  2. Erika Meyer says:

    mat catastrophe, thank you! Dear Editors, can we change the first sentence of Part 2 to something like “It’s 2005. I’m teaching guitar (etc)” thx!

  3. danny redle says:

    I have been a Donnas fan for years and have read many accounts from these ladies about all sorts of idiotic bullshit they’ve had to deal with from men. All sorts of shit like their label Atlantic wanting them to become Britney Spears to Howard Stern asking if they’re gonna do Playboy. It’s a shame, they’re a great rock n roll band who have gotten very little respect Hopefully they’ll write a book or make a movie about all of this at some point.

  4. Erika Meyer says:

    I have never read much of Lester Bangs’ writing but I recently saw this interview quote:
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    Q: “How did you style develop there, like the interviews where you really gave a guy a good grilling?

    A: Well basically I just started out to lead with the most insulting question I could think of. Because it seemed to me that the whole thing of interviewing as far as rock stars and that was just such a suck-up. It was groveling obeisance to people who weren’t that special, really. It’s just a guy, just another person, so what?

    ref: http://www.furious.com/Perfect/lesterbangs.html
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    I feel like whether or not it was conscious, this is the approach the Portland shock jocks took. What it reminds me of, is when I first read Henry Miller’s writing and saw that he recognized the folly of the 1950s idealized elevation of women above men, the folly of placing femininity on a pedestal – his response was not to seek equality, but to kick femininity off the pedestal, then, for good measure, kick mud in her face.

    No one can have any clue what it’s like to be a female in this biz unless you have been a woman in a rock band, or been in a rock band with a woman. I simply do not believe what I see and hear sometimes.

    AFA The Donnas, they play with a lot of cheese ball rock stereotypes, but they are always in charge of their own sexuality. By walking out of the interview, they reenforced that authority. And that is what the shock jocks didn’t expect, and couldn’t handle.

  5. Casey says:

    Hey, I won a competition where I was given a chance to meet the Donnas around 2004.. and at the time they seemed quite friendly, apart from the bass player who I remember made a mean comment on how I was really short (i’m 5″3) and so I couldnt hang out with them.. ? Haha Anyway, I was a HUGE donnas fan! Not a teeny bopper, Infact i’m close to their age. A couple of years later I found a video on YouTube of Brett (the singer) from the day I met them complaining about having to meet me! It really put me off the band. Without their fans they are nothing.! They should be greatful that they got lucky in the music biz. That disrespect/ego really made me think they are a bunch of brats. Maybe they need to get a sense of humor too while they’re at it!

  6. Guy Herremerre says:

    I love the Donnas. We should all show some respect to women in rock, even if they toy with a REAL ROCK image. I saw the Donnas in Antwerp live in 2007 and they were really sexy phisically AND great musically. What’s wrong with that? I would never dislike them, even if one of them told me something I didn’t like. They’re much too good!

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